Tyler Harmon Legislative Aide State Representative Jean Schmidt 77 S. High Street | 12th Floor | Columbus, OH 43215 O: 614-466-8134 Outlook RE: Guardianship Bill From Harmon, Tyler <Tyler.Harmon@ohiohouse.gov> Date Thu 9/4/2025 11:35 AM To Ray Lautenschlager <ma5hie@hotmail.com>; David Kahle <poundcake301@gmail.com> Cc McCarthy, Jordan <Jordan.McCarthy@ohiohouse.gov> Ray, LSC is asking if there needs to be an exception to “(B) All current custody and visitation orders for said child shall remain in effect until the final orders are issued on guardianship for said child.” Should a military member take on active duty orders, then a current custody order may need to be modified to accommodate. LSC is saying that this as written, may not allow for any change in those circumstances until the final order is given. Do we want to allow that exception? If not, that is fine for drafting purposes. The language as submitted says that a probate court can provide a final decision on permanent guardianship (the whole reason for the bill). Without that exception, original orders from the original jurisdiction cannot be changed. It does not appear LSC is trying to make changes to the military sections. In addition, it was my understanding that you wanted our office to submit the bill. If Rep. Bird has done that already, then we can look at potentially joining them on the bill. However, one office should be the lead on working through changes with LSC. I do not know what full custody bill you are speaking of, unless it pertains to the equal parenting bill that was introduced in the Senate. Perhaps that was through a different office? Thank you, From: Ray Lautenschlager <ma5hie@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2025 11:14 AM To: Harmon, Tyler <Tyler.Harmon@ohiohouse.gov>; David Kahle <poundcake301@gmail.com> Cc: McCarthy, Jordan <Jordan.McCarthy@ohiohouse.gov> Firefox https://outlook.live.com/mail/0/inbox/id/AAkALgAAAAAAHYQDE... 1 of 5 9/4/2025, 1:31 PM

Tyler Harmon Legislative Aide State Representative Jean Schmidt 77 S. High Street | 12th Floor | Columbus, OH 43215 O: 614-466-8134 Subject: Re: Guardianship Bill Incorrect understanding of this bill and Ohio law and procedures, as currently wri4en. Probate Courts do NOT issue custody orders in Juvenile or Domes6c Rela6ons cases. No changes are needed to 3109.04 or the military sec6ons. Rep. Bird has supposedly submi4ed the same bill as well, and the full custody bill that Rep. Schmidt was supposed to send to LSC much earlier this year. I am including Bird's aid in this conversa6on, and I would like to ﬁnd out what is going on with the full custody bill. Please Advise. Ray Lautenschlager Ohio Family Rights From: Harmon, Tyler < Tyler.Harmon@ohiohouse.gov> Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2025 9:26 AM To: Ray Lautenschlager < ma5hie@hotmail.com>; David Kahle < poundcake301@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Guardianship Bill Additional question: understanding of division (B) of the provided language is that the modification of any custody or visitation orders is prohibited until the probate court issues a final order to appoint a guardian to the adult child with a disability. Are there any exceptions to this, e.g., for a parent who receives an order for active military service (R.C. 3109.04(I) and 3109.051(M)) or change of circumstances that makes modification necessary for the child’s best interest? Thank you, Firefox https://outlook.live.com/mail/0/inbox/id/AAkALgAAAAAAHYQDE... 2 of 5 9/4/2025, 1:31 PM

From: Ray Lautenschlager < ma5hie@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 11:32 PM To: David Kahle < poundcake301@gmail.com>; Harmon, Tyler < Tyler.Harmon@ohiohouse.gov> Subject: Re: Guardianship Bill Tyler, To answer LSC's ques6ons: #1 - GAL provisions are for this bill only. No modiﬁca6ons to 3109 are needed or required. #2 - No modiﬁca6on of the fee assignments is needed for this sec6on. LSC's presump6on that payment plans are required and that one party does not unnecessarily run the bill up is false. No modiﬁca6ons to the proposed bill are needed. All we need are the LSC numbers so this can be introduced. Representa6ve Schimdt is not the only one wai6ng for this to clear LSC; there are several others. Ray Lautenschlager Ohio Family Rights Legisla6ve Director From: David Kahle < poundcake301@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2025 7:59 PM To: Harmon, Tyler < Tyler.Harmon@ohiohouse.gov>; Ray Lautenschlager < ma5hie@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Guardianship Bill Firefox https://outlook.live.com/mail/0/inbox/id/AAkALgAAAAAAHYQDE... 3 of 5 9/4/2025, 1:31 PM

Tyler Harmon Legislative Aide State Representative Jean Schmidt 77 S. High Street | 12th Floor | Columbus, OH 43215 O: 614-466-8134 Tyler, I am going to refer these questions to the author of the bill Ray Lautenschlager with Ohio Family Rights to answer for you. Thank You for your attention to this matter. David Kahle On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 12:42 PM Harmon, Tyler < Tyler.Harmon@ohiohouse.gov> wrote: David, We have a couple of questions from the legislative drafters that I am hoping you can help with. Please see below: 1. Are the guardian ad litem provisions (division (C)) intended to apply to any GAL appointed under R.C. Chapter 3109 or only to GALs appointed for purposes of the bill? 2. Re: capped costs for GAL deposit, not all courts require a deposit and may use installation payments instead. Is it okay to simply refer to an “an amount determined by the court”? Thank you, Firefox https://outlook.live.com/mail/0/inbox/id/AAkALgAAAAAAHYQDE... 4 of 5 9/4/2025, 1:31 PM

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